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Oct21
Who plays, and how much? One man’s guess at the Warriors’ rotation
Filed under: Commentary; Tagged as: Al Harrington, Andris Biedrins, Anthony Morrow, Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright, C.J. Watson, Corey Maggette, DeMarcus Nelson, Don Nelson, Kelenna Azubuike, Marco Belinelli, Marcus Williams, Monta Ellis, Richard Hendrix, Rob Kurz, Ronny Turiaf, Sarunas Jasikevicius, Stephen Jackson“the last roster spot? this hardly even matters… barring injury, whoever makes it is going to be inactive for the season” – howl
Well, I hate to be the guy who quotes from his own Web site, but howl’s got a point. And given that Don Nelson has gone on record as saying that tonight’s final exhibition contest against Lietuvos Rytas — the first professional home of former Warriors guard Sarunas Jasikevicius (just wanted to make sure I still had the spelling memorized; sadly, yes) — is a dress rehearsal for what we’re going to see in the regular season, here’s one man’s guess at how Golden State’s rotation will eventually shake out.
CENTER
Andris Biedrins 33 minutes per game
Ronny Turiaf 15 mpgFoul problems have limited Biedrins to a career-high of only 29 mpg, but the team would like to keep him on the floor more often. With Turiaf, the Warriors finally have a
POWER FORWARD
Al Harrington 28 mpg
Brandan Wright/Anthony Randolph 20 mpgI know Don Nelson keeps saying that Al is going to be free to do just about anything he wants and play huge minutes, but the spring-loaded legs of Randolph and the long arms of Wright are beckoning. I think we’ll see one or the other of the youngsters on a given night, depending on the matchups, but probably not both in the same game.
SMALL FORWARD
Corey Maggette 36 mpg
Kelenna Azubuike 12 mpgThe Warriors know exactly what they’re going to get with Maggette at the offensive end. The only surprise will be what quality of defense he can provide. Quietly, Kelenna Azubuike has put together a solid camp and would probably be poised for a potential breakout year if he wasn’t playing behind two of the team’s most critical contributors.
SHOOTING GUARD
Stephen Jackson 37 mpg
Kelenna Azubuike 11 mpgJackson clearly tired towards the end of last season. But until Monta Ellis gets back, there’s little chance he’s going to get much of a break in that department. After Ellis returns, you could see DeMarcus Nelson get more time here. He’s already playing some 2 in practices and games alongside C.J. Watson.
POINT GUARD
DeMarcus Nelson 24 mpg
C.J. Watson 15 mpg
Marcus Williams 9 mpgThis spot has the potential to be a merry-go-round all year long, because each of the three bring different strengths to the floor. How much productivity Don Nelson can get from this trio by tilting matchups in his favor will go a long way toward determining whether the Warriors can hang in the Western Conference race while awaiting Ellis’ return.
REST OF THE ROSTER
Marco Belinelli
Richard Hendrix
Rob Kurz OR Anthony Morrow
Monta EllisThe guy most likely to force his way into the rotation is Belinelli, but until he finds some consistency in his results, it’s likely that he’ll have the same role as last year: Late-game chucker. Don Nelson said Monday that the team will be utilizing the D-League from early on, and Hendrix, Kurz or Morrow all could be ticketed there.
There’s one man’s opinion on how the Warriors will utilize their assets. What’s your take?
– Geoff
8 Responses to “Who plays, and how much? One man’s guess at the Warriors’ rotation”
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That’s a great take. My only additions are really hopes/prayers. Hopefully B-Wright, Randolph, and Buike can all handle their 10-20 mpg and be suitable backups to 2-3 main players for the Dubs.
I always think of the Warriors as having this super deep bench, but it’s really only b/c I know our bench so well. So many players on our team are still rather unproven. It’s easy to say every player has tremendous upsides, and I’m sure we’ll see nights when the Dubs hit 15/20 threes, Belinelli gets 25+ points, and they actually keep opposing teams withing double-digit scoring. But for every game like that, there’re games where StackJack can’t hit a thing, we turn it over 25+ times, and Biendrins fouls out in the first quarter.
I just pray that our unproven players are able to squelch all doubts and assumptions of their inablities and actually prove that the Warriors are a strong, young, solid organization. We shall see…
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the evil monkey October 21st, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Probably, with Marco’s best chance at stealing minutes oddly being Marcus Williams - based on the reports. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if Turiaf played a little more than your projection and Biedrins a little less; say 30/18
Also think it’s imperative that Wright plays alongside Turiaf. He looked best w/ Webber taking up space on defense and defending down low; along with Webber’s penchant for hanging out on the perimeter to shoot jumpers to free up the lane.
Agreed, Al may see a spike in his minutes early on, but if the season goes as most expect, those minutes will soon be gone.
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petaluman October 21st, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I pretty much agree with your overall conception. Here are my own personal caveats:
1. I’d still like to see Biedrins and Turiaf get a chance to work together. If Al is injured this year or opts out, we may need Ronny to play some PF. I’m also a little concerned about depth at the 5. We’ve been giving Hendrix some run there in the preseason, and hopefully he’s ready to contribute a few minutes.
2. Wright and Randolph will likely find their minutes constricted often by foul trouble. Especially early on, I think Al will get more minutes than you’ve projected.
3. I’m hoping Jackson gets a little more rest, and Azubuike a few more minutes than your split. It’ll keep Stephen fresher, and Kelenna has earned the role of 6th man.
4. Splitting up PG duties by minutes per game is the trickiest. There’s a fair chance that it could end up fluctuating dramatically, based on match-ups. We have 3 different kinds of players: strong and defense-oriented, quick and scoring-oriented, and a more classic pass-first PG.
5. Belinelli has to earn his way onto the court; in today’s 2-years-and-out NBA, his future here may depend on it. -
Biedrins - 30 mins
Turiaf - 20 mins
Harrington - 30 mins
Randolph- 12 mins
Wright- 6 mins
Maggette - 37 mins
Azuibuke - 24 mins
Jackson - 37mins
Nelson - 22 mins
Watson - 22mins -
Our youngsters need mins, reps, they need experience. I know Nellie says he’s gonna play the youngsters(BWright, Beli, Randolph) but I’ll believe it when I see it. Knowing Nellie he’s gonna play (Azubuike/Jack/Maggette) together alot taking minutes away from BWright and Randolph at the 4. Instead of playing Belinelli I see DeMarcus sliding to the 2 with CJ/MWill at the 1. It may help us win now but its not good for the future.
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I’m NOT a fan of playing the young guys for the sake of giving them experience or minutes.
To me experience is learning you DON’T get charity or development minutes at the expense of the team. It means you take practice and the off season serious.
Leon Powe earned an NBA Championship ring with the CEltics. He didn’t get charity minutes, he earned his time. Doc Rivers probably did more than Nelson could for developing Powe’s confidence but I doubt Rivers or the vets cut Powe much slack.
Why does this GSW team need to sacrifice the present for the future? Tomorrow never comes.
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the dude October 21st, 2008 at 9:27 pm
just think how dominant this team could be if they still had adonal foyle…
/sarcasm.
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Son of Ahmed October 22nd, 2008 at 12:40 am
Nice post, Geoff, and good responses from the readers.
Here’s how I would do it:
CENTER
Andris Biedrins 30 minutes per game
Ronny Turiaf 10 mpg
Anthony Randolph 8 mpgAB should be in most of the game. He’s the best post player we have. Turiaf will be a very solid back up. Randolph can play depending on the match ups (i.e., against leaner centers) and during times when Nelson wants to play a smaller line-up. I don’t think anyone has even considered that possibility.
POWER FORWARD
Brandan Wright 20
Anthony Randolph 18 mpg
Hendrix/Turiaf 10 mpgNotice that Harrington is missing. That’s because I think he should play 3 on this team. We are deepest at the 4 spot, and we should give these players minutes because they do what Al cannot do: score inside consistently and rebound. It’s a no brainer. Conversely, there are much fewer players who are natural 3’s on the team. Al can have some of Maggette’s minutes. But not too many. (Really folks, let’s be honest. Al is a misfit on this team.) The first half of the season Wright will average the most minutes here. The second half of the season, AR will get the most minutes. Turiaf should get time here too. Actually, I think he’s a better 4 than 5. Hendrix should play solely in the 4 spot. He should not be sent down to the D league as some suggest. There will be games where his rebounding is needed, and coach Nelson would be wise to play him in those situations. He’s a rebounding specialist. Putting Hendrix in at the 5 will hurt the team and undermine his development and confidence.
SMALL FORWARD
Corey Maggette 30 mpg
Al Harrington 18 mpgI reduced Maggette’s minutes to give time to Al. But the reality is, Al should not be taking many of Maggette’s minutes, and there should be minutes allocated to Azubuike here. Again, Al doesn’t seem to be good fit.
SHOOTING GUARD
Stephen Jackson 30 mpg
Kelenna Azubuike 18 mpg
Belinelli/Nelson 10 mpg* (injuries)Azubuike needs to play and he needs to play more than 18 mpg. But team depth may interfere. Well, there are always injuries. I’d also plug in Nelson and Belinelli for 10 mpg when there are injuries at the 2 or 3 positions.
POINT GUARD
DeMarcus Nelson 16 mpg
C.J. Watson 16 mpg
Marcus Williams 16 mpgWho knows on this one. Nelson has been the best player during preseason, but I think the point guard auditions will continue into the regular season. Nelson has has surprised us all by making the team, and shocked us all by becoming the starter. It’s nice that the Dubs found another good guard, but its bad news because it reveals how mediocre Williams and Watson have been. I’m thinking that Williams becomes the starter by December.
REST OF THE ROSTER
Rob Kurz OR Anthony Morrow
Monta EllisGarbage time minutes for Kurz and Morrow. Ellis….Well what’s the over/under on the number of games missed before he comes back 100% healthy?
My distribution of minutes will not come to pass. Nelson has a different philosophy.
Al Harrington is out of place on this team. His poor rebounding and inconsistent scoring him are a problem. The team is talking like he’s going to score 20 a night. Not likely. I’ll be thrilled if I’m wrong though.
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